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Monday, April 27, 2015

A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence and Cream

Disclosure: I bought one of them and the other one was provided to me for review purposes by Berdever. However, as always, all opinions presented here are mine, and mine only. The fact that I received a product for free does not influence my review one way, or the other.

Wyjasnienia: Kupilam jeden z nich, drugi dostalam do recenzji od sklepu Berdever. Ale jak zawsze, wszystkie opinie przedstawione tu na blogu sa tylko i wylacznie moje. To, ze dostalam kosmetyk za darmo nie ma zadnego wplywu na moja recenzje, stety lub niestety. 

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Everybody who's been reading this blog for more than 5 minutes, surely must have noticed that I love A-True cosmetics. I love them even if they try to eat my face alive, as was the case with the (in)famous A-True sheet mask.

Today we will take a look at two items that claim anti-wrinkle properties through the power of darjeeling back tea.

I love tea. As it happens, right this minute I'm channeling Captain Picard and drinking a cup of delicious blue flowers Earl Grey. And though A-True also does an Earl Gray line, we're going to talk about Darjeeling today. More specifically, these two products:

  • A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence

and

  • A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream.


(C'mon? I mean, what's up with those stupid names? And here we have yet another fine example of the Korean obsession with the word "first").


Kazdy, kto czyta ten blog przez dluzej niz piec minut, na pewno juz sie zorientowal, ze kocham kosmetyki marki A-True. Kocham je nawet wtedy, kiedy maska plachtowa A-True chciala mi zywcem zezrec twarz.

Dzis poznamy sie blizej z dwoma produktami, ktore twierdza, ze walcza ze zmarszczkami poprzez cudowne moce czarnej herbaty typu darjeeling.

Kocham tez herbate. Wlasnie udaje kapitana Picarda i popijam sobie "Earl Grey. Hot." w przeswietnej wersji "blue flowers". I choc A-True rowniez oferuje linie Earl Grey, dzis bedzie o Darjeeling. A bardziej dokladnie, o tych dwoch kosmetykach:


  • A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence

and

  • A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream.




Some people, mainly those of the LDS persuasion, are going to disagree, but the general consensus is that tea is good for you.
Tea bags for swollen, red eyes? Yep, that's a classic home remedy that I suppose nearly every woman has tried one time or another. Black tea compress to soothe sunburn? Been there, done that.

A-True builds on the same tradition, except in a very scientific and skincare fancy way.

In the leaflets that come inside the boxes, you can read the PR version of the origin of A-True tea cosmetics:

Ludzie, glownie ci, ktorzy biora Nauki i Przymierza na powaznie, nie zgodza sie z tym stwierdzeniem, ale generalne zdanie na swiecie jest takie, ze herbata jest dobra dla zdrowia.
Torebki herbaciane na spuchniete oczy? To klasyk, ktory znany jest chyba kazdej kobiecie. Kompres z czarnej herbaty na poparzenia sloneczne? Bylam, zrobilam, dziala.

A-True kontynuuje ta tradycje uzywania herbaty, lecz robi to w bardziej naukowy i kosmetycznie ekskluzywny sposob.

W ulotkach, ktore znajdowaly sie w pudelkach, mozna przeczytac pr-owska wersje pochodzenia herbacianych kosmetykow marki A-True:



For those with attention deficit disorder, or those who don't have the patience and/or time to read all that, the cliffs notes version is on the back of the box:

Dla tych, kotrzy nie maja ani czasu, ani cierpliwosci, aby to wszystko czytac, wersja na szybko jest na odwrocie pudelka:


Awesome! The important part here is that many people are confused by the word "France".
No, A-True is not a French company. It's a Korean company using a French tea brand to make their cosmetics.

Compagnie Coloniale is a real tea company, and yes, indeed, it's French.
So that's where the tea, the raw material, comes from.

And the tea in these two products we're talking about today, according to the leaflet, is Darjeeling F.O.P.

Super! Najwazniejszym punktem tutaj jest, ze slowo "Francja" zmyla bardzo wiele osob. Nie, A-True to nie francuska firma. To koreanska firma kosmetyczna, ktora wytwarza swoje produkty uzywajac francuskiej marki herbacianej.

Compagnie Coloniale rzeczywiscie istnieje i jest prawdziwa marka herbaciana. Tak, z Francji.
Wiec to stad A-True czerpie swoj surowy surowiec, ze tak powiem.

Herbata w opisywanych dzis dwoch kosmetykach, to wedlug ulotki, Darjeeling F.O.P.



F.O.P stands for Flowery Orange Pekoe.
However, when looking online at different Darjeeling grades, we can quickly determine that there is no such grade as F.O.P.

There is SFTGFOP (Super Fine Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe), and FTGFOP (Fine Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe), and even TGFOP (Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe). But no FOP.
But hey, nobody cares about those pesky, little details, right?


F.O.P. znaczy Flowery Orange Pekoe.
Ale jesli poszukamy informacji o roznych klasach herbaty Darjeeling, to bardzo szybko mozemy zauwazyc, ze nie ma tam nic takiego, jak F.O.P.

Jest za to SFTGFOP (Super Fine Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe), i jest FTGFOP (Fine Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe), i nawet TGFOP (Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe). Ale nie ma FOP.
No ale kto by sie takimi szczegolami przejmowal, co nie?

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Anyway, where were we?

Ah, yes! Anti-wrinkle.

I have no idea if tea, any kind of tea, has anti-wrinkle properties. This was my first chance to find out.


Lecz, o czym to mowilismy?
A tak! Przeciw-zmarszczkowe to i tamto.

Nie mialam pojecia czy herbata, jakikolwiek jej rodzaj, posiada wlasciwosci przeciw-zmarszczkowe. To byla moja szansa, aby sie dowiedziec i przetestowac na wlasnej skorze.



Both cosmetics come packaged in paper boxes. Recycled paper boxes.
The essence bottle and the cream jar are both plastic. It pretends to be fancy, dark, heavy glass. But in reality it's dark, lightweight, non-fancy plastic.

I personally don't mind. Though for that price (US$50.00 plus each!) I'd expect better quality packaging. This was just screaming "drugstore".
It also opens a recycling can of worms, because as far as I know, cosmetic product packagings need to be made of virgin plastic. Later, they cannot be fully recycled, but only down-cycled. Therefore, glass, which is virtually infinitely recyclable, is the more eco-friendly option. But glass is expensive. Profit margins for cosmetic companies would go down. Oh well... everybody wants to make a buck.

(All this makes me appreciate the big European legacy companies that still package their cosmetics in glass. So next time you bitch and moan about that heavy glass foundation bottle, stop and think about the bigger picture.)

Oba kosmetyki przychodza do nas w pudelkach. Z recyclingowanego papieru. I dobrze!
Butelka esencji i sloiczek kremu sa z plastiku. Udaje on ekskluzywne, ciemne, ciezkie szklo. Ale w rzeczywistosci jest ciemnym, lekkim, tanim plastikiem.

Osobiscie mnie to nie przeszkadza. Ale za taka cene (ponad 50 dolcow za sztuke), oczekiwalabym czegos bardziej posh. To az krzyczalo "sieciowa drogeria".
Pozostaje rowniez kwestia ekologiczna, bo o ile dobrze sie orientuje, opakowania produktow kosmetycznych musza byc wytwarzane z dziewiczego plastiku (czyli nie moga pochodzic z recyclingu). Nie moga tez byc pozniej w pelni recyclingowane na kolejne opakowania, ale tylko na inne rzeczy, o bardziej prozaicznym zastosowaniu.
Tak wiec szklo, ktore mozna recyclingowac niemal w nieskonczonosc, jesli duzo bardziej ekologicznym materialem. Ale za to jest drogie. I zysk dla firm kosmetycznych bylby mniejszy.

(Ale to z kolei daje mi nowy punkt uznania dla europejskich marek selektywnych, ktore nadal pakuja w szklo. Wiec nastepnym razem, kiedy narzekasz na ciezka, szklana butle z podkladem, pomysl bardziej globalnie).

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OK, OK, back to the topic.
Don't judge a face cream by its plastic jar, right?

Let's start with the A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence.

OK, OK, wracamy do tematu.
Nie ma co oceniac kremu po jego plastikowym sloiczku, nieprawdaz?

Zaczniemy od A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence.



What's an "essence"? It's one of the many steps in a Korean skincare routine. It usually comes after cleansing and toning and before serums and emulsions.

I like essences very much. They prep my skin for what's to come and provide an instant relief after toning. I have very dry skin. I need all the relief I can get.

Co to jest "esencja"? To jeden z wielu mini-podpunktow w koreanskiej pielegancji. Zazwyczaj przychodzi po oczyszczaniu i tonowaniu, a przed serami i emulsjami.

Ja bardzo lubie esencje. Przygotowuja one moja twarz na to co bedzie nakladane potem, i daja mi natychmiastowa ulge po myciu i tonerze. A mam sucha cere. Kazda natychmiastowa ulga jest bardzo mile widziana.



When brand new and unopened, you can see that the cap on the bottle is secured with a sticker.

You peel off the sticker, take off the cap and see a standard issue pump:

Kiedy nowa i nieotwarta, jak widac, butelka zabezpieczona jest naklejka.
Odlepimy ja, sciagniemy zamkniecie i widzimy standardowa pompke:



I hate this pump. It's exactly the same generic, mass market pump that's used by a bazillion other cosmetic brands. It needs a light touch, otherwise you risk spitting a jet stream of essence all over your bathroom sink. And as all cheap pumps, it tends to go all funky on you when you least expect it. Just be careful, that's all I'm saying. (All other A-True pumps are exactly the same - hate!)

When you press it gently, this is what comes out:

Nienawidze tej pompki. To zwykla masowa pompka, taka sama jak w tysiacach innych kosmetycznych produktow, glownie tych z drogerii. Nalezy sie z nia obchodzic delikatnie, bo inaczej moze nam wypluc przesadnie duzo esencji z przesadnie wielka sila. I jak wszystkie tanie pompki, ma tendencje do zacinania sie tak gdzies w polowie opakowania. (Wszystkie pompki na kosmetykach A-True sa takie same - nienawidze!)

Jesli przycisniemy delikatnie, to mamy to:


White-ish, thick-ish, delicately scented goo.

"It's not an essence," exclaimed my friend. "It's an emulsion," she added.

Yes, it does resemble the type of light moisturizer commonly referred to in Asia as "emulsion". And surprise, this essence moisturizers lightly just as an emulsion would.

Bialawa, malo gestawa, delikatnie pachnaca maz.

"To nie esencja!" powiedziala moja kolezanka. "To jest emulsja," oznajmila.

Fakt, ta "esencja" bardziej przypomina lekki rodzaj nawilzacza znany w Azji jako "emulsja". I niespodzianka - rowniez lekko nawilza, tak samo jak zrobilaby to emulsja.



I didn't think I would like it. But I do. A lot. It has become my go-to daily light moisturizer. It makes my face feel deliciously soft. It does not cause any breakouts or any other adverse reactions.

The only problem? It did nothing for my fine lines and wrinkles.

Yet, I am willing to forgive this major fail and actually repurchase this emulsion, oh pardon moi, this essence, because it's a perfect light moisturizer for the hot, sweaty, steamy summer months ahead. It works so well in my daily skincare routine, it agrees with my serums and creams and sunblocks.
It absorbs quickly and, get this, leaves NO greasy residue.  My skin absorbs it completely.
My oily friend loves it, too. She says it dries to a semi-matte, semi-satin finish. There's no greasy shine, she says.

My verdict? Even though it did nothing for my wrinkles, I like it. I will repurchase.

Here are the ingredients for the A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence:



Nie myslalam, ze sie z nia polubie. Ale jednak! Polubilysmy sie. I to bardzo. To moje codzienne lekkie nawilzanie. Robi moja cere mieciutka, swiezutka i bardzo przyjemna w dotyku i w wygladzie. Nie powoduje zadnych wysypow, ani innych nieprzyjemnych reakcji.

Jedyny problem? Nie zauwazylam zadnych wlasciwosci przeciw-zmarszczkowych.

Jestem jednak w stanie wybaczyc to niedociagniecie, i zakupic ta emulsje, o pardon mnie, esencje, ponownie, bo to idealny lekki nawilzacz na japonskie lato. Wpasowuje sie tez znakomicie z reszta mojej pielegnacji. Zgadza sie z serami, kremami, filtrami, wszystkim.
Wchlania sie szybko i calkowicie, nie pozostawia zadnego uczucia tlustosci. Moja przyjaciolka z cera tlusta tez jest z tej esencji bardzo zadowolona. Mowi, ze na jej skorze daje efekt ni to pol-matu ni to pol-satyny, ze nie ma zadnego tlustego swiecenia.

Moja opnia? Choc nie bylo to przeciw-zmarszczkowe, to lubie to i kupie ponownie.

Tutaj sklad A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Essence:



Now, let's move onto the A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream.

A teraz czas na A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream.



Comes in a matching box.
"For Youthful and Firming Care," it says on the box.

We shall see...

Przychodzi do nas w pudelku o takim samym dizajnie jak esencja.
Dla "pielegnacja odmladzajaco napinajaca" mowia nam na pudelku.

No, zobaczymy...



In the box we have a 50 g jar of cream, a spatula and a leaflet (not pictured here).

Just as with the essence, when new and unopened, the top is protected with a sticker.

W pudelku mamy sloiczek z 50 gramami kremu, szpatulke i ulotke (nie zalapala sie na zdjecie).
Tak jak w przypadku esencji, kiedy nowy i nieotwarty, zakretka sloiczka zalepiona jest naklejka.



There's an inner lid to protect the contents.
When I opened the jar for the first time, I didn't see this inner cap. Why? It got stuck inside the screw top. It took some effort to extract it and place it back on the cream to take the photo.

And here we have the cream:

Mamy tez wewnetrzna pokrywke dla ochrony zawartosci i swiezosci.
Kiedy po raz pierwszy odkrecilam ten sloiczek, nie widzialam tej wewnetrznej pokrywki. Dlaczego? Bo byla wcisnieta w zakretke. Musialam niezle sie nagrzebac, aby ja uwolnic, zeby pstryknac ta fotke powyzej.

A tutaj mamy sam krem:



It looks thick and rich, but it's not. It's actually pretty light.

Wyglada na gesty i bogaty, ale nie jest. Jest dosyc lekki, powiedzialabym.



I admit I'd prefer something richer. A lot richer. But then my skin needs rich, heavy, super nourishing stuff. This isn't it.

The cream moisturized, but that's all it did. For me, it didn't moisturize enough. I can see it will work a lot better during summer. Also, I'd chance to say, it will be a good cream for oily skin folk.
Both the cream and the essence have delicate quasi-tea scents that disappear fairly quickly upon application.

Now, what about its anti-wrinkle properties?
I honestly didn't notice any.
Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.


Przyznam sie, ze wolalabym cos bardziej tresciwego. Ale to dlatego, ze moja skora ma takie wymagania. Bedzie jednak idealny dla tlusciochow.

Ten krem nawilzal. Ale to jedyne co robil. Dla mnie zima nie nawilzal wystarczajaco. Latem bedzie idealny. I krem i esencja maja delikatny herbaciany zapach, ktory bardzo szybko sie ulatnia. A szkoda, bo jest bardzo przyjemny i odprezajacy.

Ale co z dzialaniem przeciw-zmarszczkowym?
Tak szczerze, to nie wiedzialam zadnego.
Nic. Zupelnie nic.




It did nothing to prevent new lines. It did nothing for my existing lines.
It was a nice moisturizer, that's all.

And here I am torn.
Because I actually like this cream. I know it will work great as the weather gets hotter and more humid. But then again, if all I'm looking for is light moisture, then I already have the essence. Which I can pair with a more substantial cream, if needed.

However, as a basic day cream to wear under makeup, this worked great.

Bottom line? If this cream cost 20 bucks, I'd buy it again. For more than 50 dollars, no thank you. I'll pass.

(If you want a GREAT cream from A-True, buy the White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Cream. That's what I just did, because hello, Berdever has a promotion 30% off on all A-true products until April 30th).


Nie zrobil ten krem nic aby zapobiec nowym zmarszczkom. Nie zrobil tez nic z tymi, ktore juz mam.
Byl milym srodkiem nawilzajacym, to wszystko.

I tutaj mam problem. Bo w zasadzie to lubie ten krem. Na gorace, potem zalane lato bedzie idealny. Ale jesli jedyne co chce to lekkie nawilzenie, to mam juz esencje. Ktora moge polaczyc z bardziej tresciwym kremem, jesli tego moja cera bedzie wymagac.

Ale znowu, jako krem na dzien pod makijaz, to ten byl idealny.

Ostateczna opinia? Jesli kosztowalby jakies 20 dolarow to kupilabym ponownie. Ale za okolo 50, to podziekuje.

(Jesli koniecznie szukasz WSPANIALEGO kremu od A-True, to polecam White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Cream. Wlasnie skorzystalam z promocji 30% znizki w Berdever, i sama kupilam. Kupilam tez lotion z tej linii, bo esencje White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora juz mam.)


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After a few days of using the A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream, one night I stuck the spatula into the jar and surprise!!!

Po kilku dniach uzywania A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream, wsadzilam szpatulke do sloiczka. I niespodzianka!!!


(Please excuse the ratty towel background, this was taken with the phone in the bathroom).

So let's see how deep this rabbit hole goes.


(Prosze wybaczyc farfoclowaty recznik, bylam w lazience, pstrykalam telefonem).
Wiec sprawdzmy jak gleboka ta krolicza norka jest:



The answer? All the way to the bottom.

The inside of the jar was literally empty.
There's no way in hell there was 50 grams of cream in there.
I guess now I'll have to weigh all new creams before I start using them, and then again weigh empty containers to determine whether or not the quantity is as it should be.

Needless to say, this was a very unpleasant surprise.

The packaging info says this:


Odpowiedz? Gleboka az do samego dna.

Srodek sloiczka byl w zasadzie pusty.
Nie widze jak to mozliwe, aby znajdowalo sie tam 50 gramow kremu.
Chyba teraz bede musiala zaczac wszystko wazyc przed otwarciem, i potem po skonczeniu produktu, aby naprawde sprawdzic, czy znajduje sie w srodku tyle kosmetyku, ile byc powinno.

Byla to raczej nieprzyjemna niespodzianka.

Na opakowaniu mamy to:



40 ml for the essence, and 50 grams for the cream.
Oh well...

Here are the A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream ingredients:


40 ml esencji i 50 gramow kremu. No coz...

Tutaj sklad A-True Darjeeling Black Tea First Anti-Wrinkle Cream:



The blurb on the leaflet is the same as for the essence, except here macadamia oil is also mentioned. I didn't bother to take a photo.

And what about the expiration dates?
Here they are:

Opis produktu na ulotce jest niemal identyczny jak w przypadku esencji. Tutaj rowniez macadamia olej jest wspomniany. Nie robilam zdjecia.

A jak z datami waznosci?
Sa tutaj:


Final verdict?

  • Are these decent products? Yes.
  • Overpriced? Yes.
  • Anti-wrinkle anything? Nope.
  • Moisturizing? Yes.
  • Gentle? Very much so!
  • Suitable for sensitive and breakout prone skin? Yes.
  • Suitable for oily skin? According to my oily tester - yes.
  • Suitable for dry skin? Depending on how dry your skin is, you might need more moisture.
  • Day or night? For the cream I'd say day. You might want something more substantial at night.
  • Works under makeup? Yes, very well!

Finalowa opinia?


  • Czy sa to dobre produkty? Tak.
  • O wygorowanych cenach? Tak.
  • Przeciw-zmarszczkowe cokolwiek? Nie.
  • Nawilzajace? Tak.
  • Delikatne? Jak najbardziej tak.
  • Dobre dla cery wrazliwej? Tak.
  • Dobre dla cery tlustej? Wedlug mojej tlustej testerki - tak.
  • Dobre dla cery suchej? Tak, ale w zaleznosci od tego jak sucha jest twoja cera, mozesz potrzebowac dodatkowego nawilzenia.
  • Na dzien czy na noc? Krem powiedzialabym zdecydowanie na dzien. 
  • Nadaje sie pod makijaz? Jak najbardziej tak.



Of the two I much prefer the essence, as you can tell. Here, I have absolutely nothing to complain about. Except maybe the pump and cheap, plastic bottle. For that price I'd like to see something a bit more luxurious.

Jak widac z powyzszego, bardziej lubie esencje. Tutaj nie mam nic do zarzucenia. No moze oprocz pompki i taniej, plastikowej butelki. Za taka cene oczekiwalabym czegos bardziej powiewajacego luksusem.


Maybe I'm judging the cream too harshly, but I think there are better options.
I know that next time instead of this, I will get the A-True White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Cream. My anti-wrinkle needs I will take elsewhere.

You can purchase these, and many other A-True products from Berdever.pl.
As far as I can tell, Aga (the lady running the shop) has the best prices around.
She speaks English, so if you shoot her an email (kontakt "at" berdever.pl, just replace "at" with @ and remove the spaces), she'll be happy to help you out. She can quote your prices in dollars, of course.

And guess what?
She's running a promotion right now - 30% off all A-True products - until April 30th.
(I could pass this promotion up and just got A-True White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Cream and A-True White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Lotion).

Happy shopping!!!


Moze oceniam krem za bardzo surowo, ale uwazam, ze A-True oferuje lepsze opcje.

Wiem, ze nastepnym razem zamiast kremu dzis opisywanego, kupie ten: A-True White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Cream.
A dzialania przeciw-zmarszczkowe polece komu innemu.

Caly asortyment A-True jest do nabycia w sklepie internetowym Berdever.
I z tego co widze w necie, Aga (przemila dziewczyna prowadzaca ten sklep) ma najlepsze ceny na A-True jakie udalo mi sie znalezc.

I co najlepsze?
W tej chwili ma promocje na wszystko A-True. 30% znizki. Do jutra, czyli do 30 kwietnia.
(Sama juz skorzystalam i kupilam A-True White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Cream oraz A-True White Snow Tea Brilliant Aurora Lotion).

Milych zakupow!!!

29 comments:

  1. Mam próbki obu produktów od Agi i mam takie samo zdanie o esencji: delikatna,fajnie nawilża,miło się używa:) krem mi też odpowiada ale to esencja mnie ujęła i rozważam zakup przy tej promocji:)
    Nie ogarniam tego rozróżnienia esencja to czy emulsja ale rozumiem,że stosuje się je pod krem?Tak sobie używałam próbkę (jak to niektórzy piszą "bynajmniej ja tak używałam":).

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    1. Przepraszam, muszę się przyczepić - "bynajmniej ja tak używałam": toć to chyba chodzi o "przynajmniej", bo słowo "bynajmniej" wyklucza :D

      Ale tak, rozróżnienia między esencją i emulsją czasem są tylko na papierze i różnie producenci sobie nomenklaturę stosują :)

      I, Droga Autorko, dzięki za bloga, sumiennie śledzę :)
      Pzdr!

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    2. :) Ja wiem jaka jest różnica między tymi słowami: zauważyłam je niedawno na pewnym blogu i aż korciło by je użyć:)

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    3. Ladies, moj blog to monarchia absolutna. Ja tu rzadze. Wobec czego bardzo prosze, aby powstrzymac sie od rad polonistycznych (bo mam to gdzies), anglistycznych (bo rowniez mam to gdzies).
      Jesli jednak nie przezyjesz dnia bez wytkniekcia komus bledu jezykowego, zrob to, bardzo prosze, droga mailowa.
      Albo idz se i czytaj kosmetyczne blogi snobek jezykowych, bo takich wlasnie wiekszosc widze w polskiej blogosferze kosmetycznej.
      Ta anglojezyczna jest duzo bardziej rozluzniona.
      Dziekuje za uwage.

      Lesne, ja tez mam zamiar skorzystac z tej promocji, tyle ze ja wezme ten white snow krem i co by tam jeszcze.

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    4. @Neko
      z ta rozna nomenklatura to sie zgadzam. Doprowadza mnie to do szalu, bo kupujac internetowo nie mam okazji pomacac produktu. Stad tez zdarzaja mi sie takie niespodzianki.

      @Lesne
      juz kupilam ten white snow krem i lotion. Mam juz esencje z tej linii, krem probowalam w zeszlym roku. Bardzo mi pasowal. Ale to bylo zanim zaczelam opisywac wszystko na blogu.


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  2. A ja poproszę o tłumaczenie przed godziną "W" rozpoczęcia promocji, żebym wiedziała co mam kupić :D

    Z pozdrowieniami
    Carrie

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    1. Opisane po polsku. Promocja trwa do jutra.

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  3. Thanks for doing so many reviews on the ATrue products and posting about the Berdever promotion. I'm going to try the Black Tea Active Essence and will let you know how it turns out. I've been a lurker on your blog for awhile and really appreciate how honest you are since I suffer from mild rosacea and dry skin.

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    1. Please let me know how it turns out for you. Then I can update this entry whether it's suitable for rosacea sufferers.
      Thank you so much!!!

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  4. Minor point: nowadays it is CliffsNotes (for a good while now, actually).
    These Korean skincare products seem like a scam. Looking at the ingredients, there is nothing unusual or special in them. Want tea in your skincare? You can actually apply cold tea directly to your skin and you will get the same benefits. French tea is just smoke and mirrors, it is all about the blending, for tea does NOT grow in France. Marketing, marketing and once again marketing.
    It is possible to get these products here in the US if you know where to look. They can be cheaper, or more expensive than outlined here. It all depends. On Rodeo Drive there is a shop where they sell them at much higher prices? why?
    In K-town you can get it for much lower prices.
    Nihil sub sole novum, jak mawiali antyczni (or: there is nothing new under the sun). I had a chance to try them in Korea for fun and I was not impressed.
    I am not impressed with the cushion products either. It is just a gimmick. I prefer good, well-working pumps for everything.
    I do not even like Shu Uemura: more gimmicky stuff with very nice scents!
    We women get really tricked into the propaganda of beauty. I do believe in sun filters and even though I am probably older than you, my neck looks younger for sure. It is maybe because I use no pillows (my doctor told me long ago that no pillows is better for your complexion, face and neck) or maybe because I use old fashioned European and American creams that are specially formulated for the neck. Thicker than for the face and very effective indeed. Examples: 3Lab SuperCream and 111Skin.
    American and European women have very nice and cared for complexions - in my opinion, often much more so than their Asian girlfriends. It could be the products, it could be genetics. And lifestyle (less smoking in America at least).

    Greetings.
    Alicja

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    1. To each its own, jak mawiali inni antyczni.
      PS. I also sleep without a pillow. Been doing it for years. It's one of those "gimmicky" things that originated in Asia. Bet your doctor didn't tell you that part.
      Cheers!
      A.

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    2. PS2.
      out of curiosity I checked your 3 Lab Perfect Neck Cream with its US$140.00 price tag.
      Here are the ingredients:

      Water (Aqua/Eau), Cyclomethicone, Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Dipropylene Glycol, Alcohol, Glycerin, Dimethicone, DI-C12-15 Alkyl Fumarate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Stearic Acid, Polysorbate 60, Pentylene Glycol, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Cetyl Alcohol, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, PEG/PPG-19/19 Dimethicone, Bis-Vinyl Dimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer, Butylene Glycol, Dimethiconol, Magnesium Aspartate, Zinc Gluconate, Copper Gluconate, Human Oligopeptide-9, Alteromonas Ferment Extract, Sodium Hyaluronate, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel) Fruit Extract, Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract, Melissa Officinalis Leaf Extract, Viscum Album (Mistletoe) Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Dipotassium Glycyrhhizate, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Melia Azadirachta Leaf Extract, Melia Azadirachta Flower Extract, Amino Esters-1, Coccinia Indica Leaf Extract, Solanum Melongena (Eggplant) Fruit Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Flower Extract, Lawsonia Inermis (Henna) Extract, Ocimum Sanctum Leaf Extract, Curcuma Longa (Turmeric) Root Extract, Pearl Powder, Adenosine, Coco-Glucoside, Glaucine, Calcium Hydroxymethionine, 3-Aminopropane Sulfonic Acid, Polysorbate 20, Diacetyl Boldine, Urea, Allantoin, Glyceryl Dibehenate, Tribehenin, Glyceryl Behenate, Triethanolamine, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Lecithin, Citrus Aurantium Amara (Bitter Orange) Peel Oil, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Oil, Sodium Polyacrylate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Tocopheryl Acetate, EDTA, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol


      Sorry, but I'm not paying all that money for something with such a pathetic list. LOL.
      I'd stick with my equally expensive, and a lot better ingredient-wise, gimmicky Korean su:m37, which it looks like 3Lab is trying to (quite desperately at that) copy.
      But thanks for your recommendations. I do look at everything that my readers suggest.

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    3. PS3. Wow! This gift just keeps on giving.
      I looked at other 3Lab products and they all seem to copy and imitate selective Korean skincare, namely Sulwhasoo, Lirikos and su:m37.
      Then I read about the brand itself, and surprise, surprise, it was created by an Asian-American couple, of, you guessed it, Korean origin.
      This actually gives me a perfect idea for a new blog post to show how poorly informed some consumers who slam Asian skincare, such as yourself, for example, are.

      Thank you!

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    4. And my dear Alicja, after looking at the ingredients of 111Skin products, I'm very sorry to tell you, but they are all Asia-inspired.
      here are the ingredients for Celestial Black Diamond cream, which retails for 599 POUNDS:
      AQUA/WATER, ISOPROPYL MYRISTATE, GLYCERYL STEARATE SE, HYDROGENATED PALM OIL, CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRYGLYCERIDE, HYDROGENATED JOJOBA OIL, GYCERIN, CETEARETH-25, SODIUM ASCORBYL PHOSPHATE, BENZYL ALCHOHOL, ARBUTIN, ACETYL CYSTEINE (NAC), AESCULUS HIPPOCASTANUM EXTRACT, ZINC OXIDE, CENTELLA ASIATICA EXTRACT, HYALURONIC ACID, DIAMOND CRYSTAL, PEG-7 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL, POLYSORBATE 20, TOCOPHEROL, XANTHAM GUM, AROMA/PARFUM.

      Wow. Arbutin, centella asiatica and hyalruonic acid. "Glycerin" was misspelled on their website.
      Here's the cosdna analysis:
      http://www.cosdna.com/eng/cosmetic_ad66187329.html
      I'm duly impressed.
      (Not).

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  5. I must say that when it comes to skincare products, the sum and the synergic work is sometimes (!) better than the individual parts.Sometimes the ingredients do not add up to something better. Some things work for some people and others work for others. My doctor is Asian, by the way, born in Asia, but educated in medicine in Europe and here, in NY. But it doesn't matter.

    I like your new blog idea very much.

    But I saved the best for last: having delivered three children (twins were first), I experienced something quite shocking. Imagine a high-tech hospital with modern obstetrics unit. My twins were born without complications although a little early, as twins often are. After all is done and many people attended to me all at once, it seemed. Then there is a procedure of ensuring that all of the placenta is out and not staying on the body (it could cause an infection) and a little old lady was called to collect it from the medical trays into other containers. She chatted with me and informed me she was collecting it to be processed into skincare for beauty companies in Korea - for sale!. I did not remember signing anything that permitted to sell any of my by-products (!!!). But it did not seem like an issue big enough to pursue at the time. Some weeks or months later, I asked the doctor (the main one who delivered the babies) about it and he didn't know anything about it. He asked me if I wanted him to pursue it and I said no.
    The lady surely did not come from the street, she had a hospital badge and so on. I think the hospital must have struck some kind of a deal with some Korean entrepreneur.
    Don't knock the 3Lab neck cream till you try it. I know it is pricy but try to find a small sample and try it. This is the best cream that I have ever found (for me, of course).

    Clarins has some products with placenta as well but I have not tried it. Not that interested in trying.
    My skin does look quite young. I think I owe it to good genetics and filters that I have been applying ever since I lived in Indonesia at a young age.
    greetings.
    Alicja

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    1. Not sure how long ago it was, but since you are saying you're older than me it seems you had your children quite a long time ago.
      Actually, placenta in cosmetics is not of human origin. Don't think it's ever been. In Asia either pig or sheep cells are used. It's cheap, easily obtainable and compatible (especially the porky stuff) for human use. Though, mainly for religious (aka business) reasons, these days sheep product is preferable.
      This is a fact.
      More likely your lady was selling this stuff in the Bronx or Harlem for black magic purposes.
      I'd like to try 3Lab, but for now I'm quite happy with su:m37. And I have my neck to prove it.
      And since you are happy with 3Labs, I'd suggest you should give high end Korean brands a chance. Because that's exactly what 3Labs is offering, albeit in a watered-down version.
      My genetics are not that great but my skin doesn't look too bad for my age. I owe it to UV filters and meticulous skincare. Whether a product is western or Asian doesn't really matter to me. But since this blog was intended to showcase the Asian side of things, this is what you see here.

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  6. well, my the older children are at the end of their teen lives now. So yes, it has been a while.
    Placenta (human) has been approved for use in cosmetics by the FDA. Hard to imagine someone wanted the approval process just for fun. If I knew that this was going to happen, I would not have agreed to it (don't know why exactly). I doubt it went to the Bronx for geographically it makes perfect sense that it did not.
    There is an excellent neck cream on the market which advertises itself as using "fat-free milk". This is an excellent example of a marketing scam. Who would care if milk used in your face cream is full fat or fat-free? Exactly! All the hundreds of thousands of women who are afraid to gain weight. I am afraid that the placenta BS is the same deal: human or sheep or pig or anything else. That heart valves are made of miss Piggy is just fine. After all, miss Piggy is just one twist of her double helix away from a college professor, yes? No problem!

    best wishes,
    Alicja

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    1. The Bronx was just a figure of speech. There are many reasons why somebody might want to procure a chunk of placenta. And most of them are not legal.
      I'm not sure what is approved by the FDA (and what is not) in the US as I don't have that much interest in the American cosmetic industry. Although whenever I do take a look, it seems that American companies are perpetually playing catch up with what's coming out of Asia.

      Comparing the fat-free milk advertising scam to placenta shows a surprising lack of basic knowledge on your part. One is fat free milk, and the other - a nutrient rich substance that certain cultures have been using for medical purposes since the beginning of time (or nearly so). While I don't know whether it actually provides any magical anti-aging skincare benefits, I don't see any harm in trying it. I'd rather slather a nutrient-rich placenta extract on my face than a mixture of mineral oil, alcohol and glycerin, as is the case with most lower-end (and some very high end) skincare products.

      You use Human Oligopeptide-9 (in your neck cream), even though hard science says that the molecule is too big to penetrate the epidermal layers (despite all that 3Labs bs about nano-engineering) and its effectiveness in skincare is debatable at best. Another example of a marketing scam? Possibly. Yet you see nothing wrong with shelling a ridiculous amount of money for it. (And neither do I, as evidenced by my OHui post).
      So don't knock placenta down just yet ;-)

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  7. I am afraid I have to knock it down. I have a medic in the family whose line of research is precisely that, you could say: embryology! He looked into it for me and indeed, placenta has huge folkloric heritage (including consuming it and plying it to olympic athletes for HGF and various growth hormone stimulation. No matter what, it is only effective in nurturing little human beings. It was worth trying but it is all done and behind us now.

    There is no such thing as American cosmetic industry. Like energy, it is a global market and research is sooner or later shared. When I see Asian skincare and makeup companies imitating, yes, imitating American products and ideals, I just feel bad for them. There is no need to get lighter skin at all. I will never understand why Asian women should desire to have lighter skin. The horrible bleaching products are really a cultural misunderstanding.
    In addition, my house medic often collaborates in his science work with others internationally. His complaint about his Asian colleagues is that saving face is so important to them that they sometimes plainly lie (in ridiculous situations and very obviously). He grew up in Sweden and in Canada and this is completely unacceptable to him. But he does view it in the same way that I do: it is a huge cultural misunderstanding. Between us and Asia the cultural precipice is so enormous...
    If you have to explain that something was a figure of speech, maybe you were not clear in the first place. As I make my living by presenting solutions, whenever I explain something and people do not understand, I always place the responsibility on me, the explainer. If people didn't understand, I did not explain is very well.
    No need to be abrasive about it. "Lack of basic knowledge?"
    Placenta is a joke just as fat-free milk for facial cream is. A scam and an attempt to get money out of my (and your!) pocket.

    Enjoy the dat/night - whatever is on its way.
    Alicja

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    1. Wow! I'm duly impressed. Clearly you and your medic are experts on American and Asian beauty.
      However, my own cell biologist (whose research is actually used by cosmetic companies) is a lot more careful about making blanket statements about something that has not been fully researched, until all is said and published. Of course, it's really reassuring that your medic could do private studies about it just for you, but I'd wait until somebody with a bit more weight in the field publishes something in one of the more respected scientific journals.
      So about placenta being a joke? They said the same about the earth orbiting the sun a few centuries ago.

      You make your living by providing solutions? I hope your solutions are a bit more knowledgeable than claims that "When I see Asian skincare and makeup companies imitating, yes, imitating American products and ideals...", because otherwise I feel sorry for your poor clients.

      Unfortunately, your age is showing in that statement, and also despite your years of living in Asia (as you were quick to point out) your ignorance when it comes to beauty history and beauty ideals in different cultures through the ages. I can recommend a few good books (though perhaps in languages you are not familiar with) on the topic why light skin was considered a beauty ideal long before American cosmetic products and ideals appeared on the world scene. Hint - long before European beauty ideals (which until a few years/ decades ago also favored lighter skin tones) appeared on the Asian scene.

      Not sure where you've lived for the past 20 years, or maybe you don't read ingredient labels on your own cosmetics (that you already showed us) and follow cosmetic research, but just so you know, it's been about that long since western beauty companies started to look to Asia for ideas and inspirations. Many legacy companies established labs in Asia, or outsourced their research to Asian (Japanese) labs. Now the same legacy companies are slowly turning to Korea for the same reasons.

      And regarding Asians lying to save face... They only do it to all-knowing westerners with overblown egos. Anything to shut that moron up, he and his superiority complex will go home soon. But that's a whole different blog idea. Luckily, not for this blog...

      I'm also curious why you don't apply the same harsh joke-ingredient judgement to your own nouveau-riche cosmetics? Ah yes, those are "old fashioned European and American creams" that cost a bundle, so they must be OK.

      It's been really interesting to see your very warped perspective on the topic of Asian and American (western?) beauty, ingredients and skin care.
      Thank you!



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  8. You are amazing. But why so very defensive? I am not sure. Something's bothering you.
    I hope it clears up very soon.
    Greetings.
    Alicja

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  9. Well, thank you. Amazing! That's me :-)
    And do you always deflect and change the topic to avoid answering a question (the one about double standards re ingredients)?
    LOL!

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  10. Wow... I can't really see that Asian women wanting glow to their skin and an even finish is worse than European or American women wanting to tan and use bronze products all the time?! :) The skin might not benefit from it but to say that one thing is bad culture and not say anything about the other is in my opinion displaying a xenofobia towards Asia :) Estee Lauder just made a whole skin care seria clearly inspired by Asian skincare and Lancome just stole Amore Pacifics cushion but noooo its the other way around of course... :)

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    1. ZanZan, it's not xenophobia. Xenophobia implies hatred.
      What you saw here was nothing more than pure ignorance. And an overblown ego.

      But hey, maybe Alice is right?
      Maybe the Heian era courtiers had time machines, traveled to the 19th century "West", witnessed the upper class glorification of pale skin, returned back to 9th century Japan and instituted similar beauty ideals there and then?
      Maybe in the late 20th century execs from Asian cosmetic companies got into their time machines, traveled to 2017, picked up a few mainstream western products, saw that so many of them used oriental skincare ingredients, thought it was a good idea and brought some back to their time. Then reverse engineered the present-day Asian beauty explosion. All copied from the West, of course.
      After all, we all know that Asians are really good at copying and imitating, right?

      And the fact that Shiseido is the oldest cosmetic company in the world? Oh, right time travel again. Because actually, Yardley of London is older by a good hundred years.

      And the fact that the first rainbow colored face powder was released and marketed by Shiseido in 1917? Time travel again. Bastards must have stolen the idea from the likes of Guerlain Meteorites.

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    2. I've been following your discussion with Alicja and I'm honestly not sure what to think if that persona-- first of all, I'm surprised she's reading your blog since Asian cosmetics are such a joke to her... umm "Asian cosmetics"? What I got from her logic, there shouldn't be such a thing as Asian cosmetic industry as there is no American cosmetic industry - it's all global, yes? Also, in the previous post I praised your neck and here she says her neck looks better for sure - coincidence? I don't think so. It seems she reads a big part of your entries and the comments left by your readers as well. She has been inserting annoying rude little things in her comments without being too obvious, so she can't be brushed off as a hater or troll.

      Seems like something's bothering her.

      But I enjoyed the discussion, I learnt a few interesting things thanks to your replies. :) (and I congratulate, your patience is amazing)

      Agnieszka

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    3. Agnieszka, I noticed it too. And all those well placed, subtle zingers to show just how well off, how intellectually superior and how well traveled she is. That was the first hint that got me thinking that Alicja is not real. Too many convenient coincidences.

      Because I refuse to believe that anybody can be THAT ignorant in real life. Even in the US.

      On the other hand, I am grateful to her.
      As a result of this exchange with her, now we have a quite informative post up about just how ignorant and misinformed some consumers are.
      And I really want to try this 3Lab cushion :-)

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  11. Ta pani Alicja jest zabawna, azjatyckie kosmetyki kopiują amerykańskie i europejskie? Hahahahahah, ale się uśmiałam :)))) Jest dokładnie na odwrót! Bardzo dobrze widać to ostatnimi czasy nie tylko w Europie, ale i Polsce. To europejskie firmy podchwyciły niedawno ideę oleju do demakijażu, kremów BB (chociaż tak naprawdę wywodzi się z Niemiec) czy cushion foundations. Ostatnio widziałam choćby nowy krem do rąk firmy AA z....olejkiem tsubaki, którego ja używam od kilku lat :D Cokolwiek jest modne w makijażu czy pielegnacji azajatyckiej, do nas dociera dopiero po jakimś czasie. Nie mówiąc o tym, że rynek azjatycki jest technologicznie z 10 lat do przodu.

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    1. Chiao,
      tak jak napisalam powyzej do Agnieszki. Nie sadze, ze Alicja jest prawdziwa osoba. Raczej czyjas persona na potrzeby trollowe.
      Bo to nieprawdopodobne, aby ktokolwiek byl az takim ignorantem w tak wielu dziedzinach. Tak sie nie da funkcjonowac. To niemozliwe. Nawet w USA.

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  12. Aniu, gratuluje cierpliwości. Mnie by ze 4 razy szlag trafił, ale nie powiem, że się nie uśmiałam czytając jej argumenty XD

    A odnośnie ignorancji Amerykanów i nie tylko - ja tam jestem w stanie w to uwierzyć odkąd pracuję dorywczo odpowiadając na wiadomości klientów ebay-owego sklepu z bielizną...
    Po prostu do pewnego stopnia się doskonale maskują powtarzając pseudo-bełkot od ich najukochańszych, cudownych, och i ach firm. Poziom dzieciaczków z gimnazjum, które kłamią jak najęte żeby tylko udowodnić swój punkt widzenia.

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